#Fediverse tale: a #Friendica contact of mine announced he moved to #Mastodon, a different social media platform. I can still follow him, so the move has been seamless for me.
I was pleasantly surprised at the anti-climatic and uneventful outcome of your friend's platform transition! That is indeed great!
As someone who has only been maintaining a #Friendica instance for a few days now I am curious; did your friend cite any reasons for their move to #Mastadon? Was his instance for personal use, or open publicly? I imagine it would take some pretty major problems (with the former) or benefits (to the latter) to justify transitioning a public node! ...But like I said, I'm new to this and just trying to get a broader understanding of what people are doing with these amazing open-source platforms, and what sorts of general consensus exists around them. Thanks for sharing this!
This contact of mine actually had weird issues specific to their self-hosted instance and unfortunately we weren't able to help troubleshoot them out. Discouraged by the self-hosting challenge (I don't blame them), they moved to an existing instance of Mastodon instead.
Hum, at the moment, if you switched to Hubzilla, I could still get your posts but I wouldn't get any comments on your posts from anyone else but you. We have yet to fix that.
@Vladimir You could also have a look at Osada, which also offers the same "articles" functionality, which is what the blog on HZ is called. Unlike Hubzilla, though, it is based on ActivityPub with support for Zot6 (the next generation of Hubzilla's protocol.) @Hypolite Petovan, do you have any Osada contacts?
Hmm, what doesn't seem to work is comment replies. I can't see any comments on this post that were replies to other comments, only top level ones. I can see those only when I go directly to your profile. Maybe this info will be of help.
As for Osada, the connections would show up as AP in your list, but if you clicked on their profile, it should say Osada there somewhere, even if it's on the login page.
For point 2, you can set up a delegated Friendica account that will hold only your posts about your ceramic work. For point 1, unfortunately you're limited to Friendica themes, modulo color choices/background image.
It definitely makes sense on a commercial all-in-one platform, but less in a volunteer open source software context where projects gain from focusing on a single feature.
Currently I have separate:
Social media (Friendica)
Email, contact and calendar (FastMail)
Cloud storage (NextCloud)
Blog (WordPress)
All those features were single-handedly provided by Google, but I'm currently trying to extract myself from it.
I would also be very interested in this blog feature! However as I try to imagine it's implimentation I'm finding a blurred line... @Vladimir, what would you imagine would differentiate the blog posts from 'regular' posts? Would blog posts just end up being normal posts that are basically 'tagged' as blogs (either literally or via something behind the scenes, so to speak) and then they would just be displayed in a different manner? Or are there some more fundamental differences that I'm just overlooking here?
Honestly, I think I'd be even more interested in an integrated wiki feature where anyone can create a personal wiki and if they desire they can add users to collaborate on it. Maybe it would be just a pretty standard wiki for the Friendica Instance, and users of that instance could create pages and then add users to collab on those pages (rather than each user having something more like their entire own wiki). In practice I'm not sure if there is much difference, but I rather like this idea and think it would be in the spirit of open-source and collaboration much in alignment with Friendica's values.
These are just ideas I'm throwing out... I would love to actually get involved personally helping out and be productive with more than just ideas, in the true spirit of open-source! haha. But as far as a blog or wiki go, I think I'd be in way over my head trying to start either myself. I am really just grateful for what Friendica is already!
As I think more about the wiki idea... I believe it could be more easily implemented as an addon that would simply integrate Friendica users in to an existing wiki platform. Any thoughts on this? I'm sure there are some 'gotchas' I'm failing to foresee, but I think it could work and be much easier than reinventing the wheel with an integrated wiki.
But this would make Friendica as an identity provider, which it probably isn't meant to be.
The best would be to have a separate Wiki on which you can invite anyone. It would be less convenient, granted, but it would save volunteers hundreds of hours of work to combine both.
Do you have a recommendation for someone I should follow on Osada?
No, I don't have any Osada contacts yet myself.
Also, I take back what I said earlier, all comments made it through by now. Apparently it just took a while for them to federate.
Michael (for some reason I can't mention you), I honestly don't know. I tried it out a while back but I didn't really see the value of it over Hubzilla. But even if he did, doesn't necessarily mean it's dead.
I see your point. That was kind of why I went back and said an addon might be better to make it work with an existing system... but maybe even a better option would be to just use something like LDAP on both wiki and Friendica... which could also solve my idea of offering users free linuxlusers.com email accounts and limited shell access... although I'm not sure I want that much responsibility, haha. Just thinking out loud here, like @Vladimir haha ;) I do agree with you @Hypolite Petovan, that it would probably be a big 'can of worms' to open by implementing it directly in Friendica. Thanks for brainstorming with me though! ha
Hubzilla, Zap, and Osada all have wikis, blogs, cloud storage, groups, events, social networking, and other things that I haven't had time to explore yet. Zap is nicely done. Hubzilla does more but is confusing. I tried Osada once and it's like Zap but I discovered I don't care for Mastodon people.
Every network type is designed for different use cases. The beauty of the Fediverse is the ability to choose the one that fits yours yet still interconnect with users who choose other network types.
I did have to add their new Mastodon profile as a contact, but that's pretty much it. Since a Fediverse identity is comprised of a username and a domain name, they wouldn't have been able to keep the exact same during the move.
Which didn't need to be fixed since no software on the Fediverse support nomadic identities, which you would have known if you had looked into it, which made your "fix" unwarranted and annoying. Next time maybe ask first before "fixing" any claims, not just mine?
I have accounts on Mastodon and Friendica (and almost any Fediverse projets). So you won't learn me anything. I didn't correct you about Friendica nor Mastodon, but about your others claims (generic Fediverse). Maybe if you read me instead of just being upset you would had noticed. Take a break, breath, and come back and read again. I hope you'll understand why you were wrong.
That's some interesting trolling, to pick up a year old thread and then want to "expert" an actual expert about a feature that doesn't exist in the platforms involved in the discussion.
Adam Gaskins
in reply to Hypolite Petovan • •I was pleasantly surprised at the anti-climatic and uneventful outcome of your friend's platform transition! That is indeed great!
As someone who has only been maintaining a #Friendica instance for a few days now I am curious; did your friend cite any reasons for their move to #Mastadon? Was his instance for personal use, or open publicly? I imagine it would take some pretty major problems (with the former) or benefits (to the latter) to justify transitioning a public node! ...But like I said, I'm new to this and just trying to get a broader understanding of what people are doing with these amazing open-source platforms, and what sorts of general consensus exists around them. Thanks for sharing this!
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in reply to Adam Gaskins • •Hi Adam and welcome to Friendica!
This contact of mine actually had weird issues specific to their self-hosted instance and unfortunately we weren't able to help troubleshoot them out. Discouraged by the self-hosting challenge (I don't blame them), they moved to an existing instance of Mastodon instead.
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in reply to Hypolite Petovan • •@Hypolite Petovan, do you have any Osada contacts?
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in reply to Hypolite Petovan • •Hmm, what doesn't seem to work is comment replies. I can't see any comments on this post that were replies to other comments, only top level ones. I can see those only when I go directly to your profile. Maybe this info will be of help.
As for Osada, the connections would show up as AP in your list, but if you clicked on their profile, it should say Osada there somewhere, even if it's on the login page.
Hypolite Petovan
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Unknown parent • •It definitely makes sense on a commercial all-in-one platform, but less in a volunteer open source software context where projects gain from focusing on a single feature.
Currently I have separate:
All those features were single-handedly provided by Google, but I'm currently trying to extract myself from it.
Adam Gaskins
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Unknown parent • •I would also be very interested in this blog feature! However as I try to imagine it's implimentation I'm finding a blurred line... @Vladimir, what would you imagine would differentiate the blog posts from 'regular' posts? Would blog posts just end up being normal posts that are basically 'tagged' as blogs (either literally or via something behind the scenes, so to speak) and then they would just be displayed in a different manner? Or are there some more fundamental differences that I'm just overlooking here?
Honestly, I think I'd be even more interested in an integrated wiki feature where anyone can create a personal wiki and if they desire they can add users to collaborate on it. Maybe it would be just a pretty standard wiki for the Friendica Instance, and users of that instance could create pages and then add users to collab on those pages (rather than each user having something more like their entire own wiki). In practice I'm not sure if there is much difference, but I rather like this idea and think it would be in the spirit of open-source and collaboration much in alignment with Friendica's values.
These are just ideas I'm throwing out... I would love to actually get involved personally helping out and be productive with more than just ideas, in the true spirit of open-source! haha. But as far as a blog or wiki go, I think I'd be in way over my head trying to start either myself. I am really just grateful for what Friendica is already!
Adam Gaskins
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in reply to Adam Gaskins • •But this would make Friendica as an identity provider, which it probably isn't meant to be.
The best would be to have a separate Wiki on which you can invite anyone. It would be less convenient, granted, but it would save volunteers hundreds of hours of work to combine both.
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in reply to Hypolite Petovan • •No, I don't have any Osada contacts yet myself.
Also, I take back what I said earlier, all comments made it through by now. Apparently it just took a while for them to federate.
Michael (for some reason I can't mention you), I honestly don't know. I tried it out a while back but I didn't really see the value of it over Hubzilla. But even if he did, doesn't necessarily mean it's dead.
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in reply to Hypolite Petovan • •@Vladimir I just remembered something, there's this for a federating blogging option:
WriteFreely: https://writefreely.org
Minimalist, federated, self-hosted blogging platform.
Also, somebody put together this great website listing free and open alternatives to many of the proprietary services: switching.social/
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in reply to Hypolite Petovan • •I didn't correct you about Friendica nor Mastodon, but about your others claims (generic Fediverse).
Maybe if you read me instead of just being upset you would had noticed.
Take a break, breath, and come back and read again. I hope you'll understand why you were wrong.
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